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Natalie Dormer masters the 'Game of Thrones'


April 16, 2013|By Curt Wagner, @ShowPatrol | RedEye

Yes I do. Does she feel that she can win over Joffrey to the side of goodness? Do you think that she can change his mind about how he should treat his subjects?
Well, she has to believe that she can do it or else what are they doing. The Tyrells genuinely have to believe that they can't succeed, otherwise they wouldn't be in this snake pit. They're all in, really, to use a poker term. They're completely all in. They're having to be very brave about it. Yeah, she does believe.

Do you find her rather fearless?
No, she's not fearless. She fears. She's scared. Margaery, as in a lot of characters in "Thrones," the interesting concept is not that she is fearless, it is that she is with fear and overcomes it. And whether you're talking about Robb Stark leading his men into battle or whether you're talking about anyone--Tyrion, Cersei or Margaery. Drama is interesting when people fear and they overcome it. Not when they are just completely courageous. It's the journey of overcoming the fear that is the interesting thing.

She seems to be winning the game early on and I'm wondering what kind of challenges she will face in future episodes.
Let's be honest. In this season and in the next, Margaery is definitely going to get a few nasty surprises.

Do you believe she's faking it with him?
Well, she's not in love with Joffrey. But if this is going to be her life, if it's what is wanted by her family and this is the role, the duty she's got to bear for her family, she wants to make it as pleasant and plausible a future as possible. And I'm sure she has every intention of trying to create a healthy, functioning family with Joffrey where she can have a child and put her child on the throne.

She says at one point in the series, "I will have a son. And sons listen to their mothers." As Joffery has listened to Cersei, up until this point. I think that's the interesting dynamic between Cersei and Margaery; in this world, the way women have control and power is to have control and power over their men who sit in the authoritative positions. So that means, whether you are the wife of the king or the mother of a king to be, that is how you have your influence. So the women can't be out there on the battlefield with their swords actually doing it physically. They have to do it with intrigue and psychological power.

That's the interesting thing to watch unfold in the battle between Cersei and Margaery.

At this point Cersei doesn't really trust her does she, or is she just jealous of her?
Does anyone trust anyone in "Thrones"?

Probably not. It looks like it's setting up for another mess. Butting of heads between the two of them.
I think Dan [Weiss] and David [Benioff], the creators, are really aligning everything up so that Lena and I can have some fun in the future definitely.

Has it been so fun so far? Do you like playing somebody who has all these things going on in her head?
Oh, it's very much fun. And the cast is so much fun. We all laugh a lot. You probably can't tell that from watching the show, but Jack who plays Joffrey and Lena who plays Cersei and Diana and Sophie and myself, we all have a good old giggle when we're shooting. So it's a lovely environment to be in between takes.

Where did most of your shooting take place?
Belfast and Croatia, because Dubrovnik doubles as our exteriors for Kings Landing. So I had the pleasure of being in Dubrovnik a lot. And also a little bit in Morocco as well.

I love the scenes with the Queen of Thorns when they're having the luncheon with Sansa, it's so beautiful.
Oh, it's stunning. That's the outskirts of Dubrovnik. Yeah that's the southern tip of Croatia. Stunning place.

What's it like working with Diana Rigg?
As you would imagine. A veteran, a legend, a Tony winning actress, a legend in her own right. A lot of fun.
Have you been sort of amazed by how much fans get worked up over Joffrey? And how much they hate him?
It's pretty amazing. It's warranted, really, I mean he's a nasty piece of work. [Laughs.] He's a very nasty piece of work. I like how brave the writing is. I love how brave in the books George was with him. And how Dan and David have been very brave in translating that. And how Jack is fearless in his performance. To play someone so unsavory who shows such dark sides of human nature is a brave thing to do. And that's what I love about "Thrones." They always up the stakes. They make it serious, which, life and death and sadistic behavior is serious. I love the way that "Thrones" doesn't shy away from the darkness of humanity.

Have you read the books?
I haven't.

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