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Rodman rocks Chicago

The former Bull raps about Donald Trump, reality TV and children's books

  • Former Bull Dennis Rodman
Former Bull Dennis Rodman (Alex Grimm/Getty Images )
December 02, 2012|By Matt Lindner | For RedEye

If you've ever found yourself gazing wistfully up at the United Center rafters wondering what Dennis Rodman is up to these days, the answer is, well, not much.

"I don't do [bleep]," Rodman said. "I just live life to the fullest, man."

The Worm recently held court in an exclusive, profanity-laced interview with RedEye prior to an appearance on Saturday night at Arrow on Ogden, a rare occasion for a man who remains beloved by Bulls fans despite the fact he spent only three seasons in red and black.

"In 13, 14 years I've probably been back here three times," he said. "I know people here in Chicago, they're very good, loyal people. They don't forget anything, especially sports."

Clad in a T-shirt, white sweatpants and sunglasses despite the fact that it was dark outside and not particularly bright in the office we were sitting in, Rodman waxed poetic while sipping a clear drink on a number of topics prior to the LivingSocial-sponsored event.

He was in town to partake in what is admittedly a rare activity for him—watching the Bulls on TV.

"I can't lie to you—no," he said when asked if he keeps tabs on the team. "If [a game] is on, I'll watch it just to check out and see how the team is performing, how they're chilling together."

Truth be told, Rodman does do some stuff, most notably appearing on the upcoming season of "Celebrity Apprentice All-Stars," which kicks off in March.

He and "Apprentice" star Donald Trump have struck up an unlikely friendship over—what else?—women.

"That's our connection, girls," Rodman said. "Me and Donald go back a long way. We shoot the [bleep] a lot. Some of the girls he's had in his pageants, I've [bleeped] around with them a little bit. We had a good time with the girls."

As a wingman, Rodman says Trump is as good as any.

"That mother[bleep] is 4 billion deep with his own plane, 757 plane, custom," he said incredulously. "Are you kidding me?"

He's also written a children's book, "Dennis the Wild Bull," based on the treasure trove of life experiences gained through decades in the public eye.

"I just want to let kids relate to the sports world and just life in general," he said.

Rodman said reality TV has left kids with a skewed perception of what they should be when they grow up. After all, fame isn't all it's cracked up to be.

"A lot of kids think they know so much, but unless you experience and live it, you don't know [bleep]," he said. "A lot of them want to be famous and try to think they're famous. Those are the things I want kids to understand that, you know, everyone's not gonna be famous. You've just got to be normal and just make sure everything's cool."

Despite the fact that he's been out of basketball for over a decade now, Rodman remains in fairly good shape but said he couldn't hang with today's players.

"Naw dude, I can't play with those guys," he said.

When asked to elaborate, he said part of the problem is the fact that the game has evolved so much from when he broke in as one of the Detroit Pistons' notorious "Bad Boys" in the late '80s.

"It's hard to play," he said. "You can't do anything. Back in the day, you could have a full on fight and still play, throw somebody to the ground and still play. Now you can't even look at someone."

As for the current Bulls, Rodman said their championship window hasn't closed just yet. His advice to the squad is to play more as a team and don't rely too much on Derrick Rose when he returns from his ACL injury.

"You can't depend on one guy to just go out and do it every night, day in and day out," he said. "Michael Jordan comes around once in a blue moon. Michael needed the help of Scottie, Kukoc, me, Phil Jackson. He had help. We did a great job winning six championships here. I think if they can just get one, they'll be all right."

Matt Lindner is a RedEye special contributor.

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